In Part 2 of this exclusive interview, Larry Hartsell, an expert in Bruce Lee's jeet kune do and various styles of grappling, talks about how the two forms of fighting function together in self-defense.
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Know something about each and specialize in one or two? Yes. Use what you do best to counter what he has. Is entering into trapping range and grappling range what you do best? Yes, getting to the inside range. How do you generally finish a fight after going to the ground? I just go into a submission hold — kata gatame or yoko shiho gatame, then maybe into an arm lock or neck crank. When you face an opponent in a self-defense situation, do you plan on getting into grappling range, or do you just work in whatever range he takes you to? Your opponent’s move is your move. Go with the flow. You can initiate the first move or you can counter his move. It can be done two ways; I do both. How well does grappling mix with arts that focus on punching and kicking? Every martial art should have some form of grappling. I have worked as a doorman and bouncer in some of the worst bars in Charlotte, North Carolina, and most fights I saw ended up on the ground. One guy was either in the mount position beating the hell out of the other guy or grabbing [whatever he could]. Judging from what I’ve seen and been involved in, you have only one or two punches. If they don’t knock out the other guy — or at least hurt or stagger him — you end up in clinching range. For grappling self-defense, how important is ground work vs. throwing? Do you need throwing techniques, or is throwing something you can avoid? There are different types of throws for competition and self-defense. If you’re fighting on pavement, you don’t want to throw where you’re going to injure yourself. But there are many different ways to take a person to the ground: single-leg and double-leg takedowns, body tackles and go-behinds.
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